Hi everybody, After though thinking, discussion with Jookie etc I decided to send whole Paypal to the hell, with all consequences it implies. The reason is simple -- I'm paying THEM, not vice versa, i.e. it's crazy I should beg them for some exceptions and feel like a criminal doing some nasty things. Maybe you don't realize that but Paypal could got quite a money for this "sale", 3.4% from nearly 80 people with average payment about 100 Euro... that's quite a lot. And if they don't want our (your!) money, so be it. I instructed them to do a refund but as soon as I received their nice "I forwarded this to my retarded-colleague-behaving-line-another-machine" email I decided to do the refund manually, before they do any other stupid action (like "It came to our attention you want to do a mass refund, so we have frozen all your money until we decide to do so"). It was really nice hour, I am mouse-clicked to the death ;) Anyway. Everyone should receive email from Paypal the refund is done, I double checked the list, everyone with "completed" status is now "refunded". The next step will be I change Paypal guys to "not paid" in our system. So what are our / your options: if you were not disgusted with all this hassle, we still welcome your orders again but via another way. One way is to use bank transfer (the most problem-less but might be quite expensive for non-EU citizens). In case you better trust your credit card, there is a Paypal alternative called "MoneyBookers" (http://www.moneybookers.com). It has significantly lesser fees (compare 0.50 Euro on MB to 3.4% of the sum + 0.35 Euro on Paypal, sometimes its three times cheaper!) and I've had never any problems with them. I even double checked they are not going to do any troubles, it was very polite and correct conversation, much against what I witnessed with Paypal staff. The third option is cash-in-letter or money-via-3rd-person (you can join your payments for example, no problem for me) but of course, it's the least secure. If you want to pay via either way, just login into our system, choose desired option and you'll get all needed details (like bank info). Btw, I added some legal stuff on order site like privacy policy or return policy, it doesn't mean anything for you, it's just result of conversation with moneybookers merchant staff, I wanted to be sure the history wont repeat, so they told me I should include such things and they will be OK with my "business". Of course those things are right, i.e. we do really have that return policy etc ;-) OK, all for now, I'm sorry for any inconvenience (I can imagine how much "fun" is to register on some portal and give them your credit card number or bank account access), I was trying really hard but Paypal is definitely bad place for amateur projects like ours. So what, life is going on, you will appreciate your UltraSatan device even better ;-) And btw #2 -- we've extended payment deadline until the end of May (unfortunately, that also means we've moved manufacturing & shipping one month away -- HUGE APOLOGIZE for all the non-Paypalers!). Hopefully, the next email you receive from us will be about manufacturing success and beginning of shipping phase! Best regards, Miro Kropacek aka MiKRO